THIS FROM COWBOY BYTES:
NDAMIX: Why is it white people aren’t suppose to be proud of their race or their heritage and when they do they’re called racist or insensitive? Everyone else is offended by something, but white Christians aren’t allowed to be. Seems a little unfair and insensitive. Why is it when we recognize someone rights, someone else gets their rights trampled on? All these groups act like they want equality, but what they really want is special privileges.
reply colleenf: I agree. We have gay pride parades, black history month, MLK month, hispanic celebrations out the ying yang, the congressional black caucus (I refuse to capitalize the words as this would give them actual credence of logic or prestige!), the hispanic caucus………..WHERE is the Congressional Caucasian Caucus??? Why can we not have a white history month? I do believe, without having done any research, that Caucasians have made significant contributions to the history of our world!!
reply ADRoberts: They can offend white people all day long. But don’t you dare offend a minority.
They can have a Black History Month. But having a White History Month? That would be racist. But only if you have a chip on your shoulder and are determined to STUFF white people.
Time to man up and stand up. Time to demand that the liberal/black double standard -example is affirmative action- be ended.
Treat all people equally. No more Negro College Fund if there is not a White people college fund. No more sports teams that are mainly black unless affirmative action is totally eliminated. If it is going to be by racial percentages, then the maximum percentage of blacks on NBA, NFL etc teams MUST be 13%.
If you cannot compete on a level playing field, take your ball and GO HOME.
Ed Orr: This gave me an idea. What if I were to pull a wagon like this in a parade but have a half a dozen of my biggest pigs in it. I would paint BHO, Moochelle, harry Reed and other great people’s names on them. Put turbans on the pigs, and tie little POW/MIA flags on their tails , wear an Uncle Sam costume and go blackface. Now that would get a lot of attention but would also bring in every black suit wearing B.O. gestapo agent on my head. Wonder if any of the thought police visit this site, OH SCHITT I bet they DO.
reply HDAMIX: I thank God I was born white and in the USA. I’m a Yankee, but love southern rock, southern girls, SEC football, pecan pie, soft cotton sheets, front porches and the history of these United States and all those goes with it. That includes from our beginning through all the trials and tribulations of embracing freedom and liberty. I’m proud of our past and how far we’ve come. I’ll never back down from expressing that.
reply Ed Orr: Was in a hurry, forgot to say I would also have a huge Stars and Bars flag somewhere on the wagon. I guess that being born in Georgia while my dad was in the Marines and a drill instructor on the “island” it should have taught me to take more time to “splain” the entire idea.Way back when my dad told me about the South and the Civil war he also was the first to tell me that the war was fought to free the slaves but then many WANT to be slaves …in their own minds. Seems like the time is getting nearer for another civil war but this time it will be to free US from those enslaved with PC and self enslavement.
jong: Because when it come down to it the Whites for better or worse are the ones who built this country for the most part. Many other races have a inferiority complex in that they do not try to live with what has gone on and march to even further glory and accomplishment they dwell on the past that they did not make.
reply colleenf: I think you have some of it correct. I think it is less of an inferiority complex than it is more akin to jealousy and hatred for all Caucasians.
reply jong: Jealousy yes hatred no. They can not put a finger on what is driving their hatred only excuses.
reply NDAMIX: A lot of was taught to them growing up by their parents or others in their life. When you blame someone else for troubles in your life, like the Muslims do the Jews. It makes you feel better about yourself and gives you something to rally around. It turns into a form of hatred based on ignorance.
reply jong: I would agree with that. But, the hatred has been there so long they have forgotten the original cause.
reply felix1999: Yeah, Hitler used the Jews as the rallying point to unite them. It’s an old tactic. Obama does the same with HATE WHITES and CHRISTIANS.
reply felix1999: They refer to it as “white priviledge”. What they don’t want to admit is they WORKED for it. I defy you to find a public school where BLACKS are not fighting it our with the Hispanics at the BOTTOM of the academic scale. Show me where blacks and Hispanics are NOT last as a racial group. There is NO EXCUSE for blacks or Hispanics. Blacks have been here longer and still they compete for LAST PLACE academically.
reply felix1999: It’s odd but MOST blacks as they become successful have their skin bleached to be WHITER. Study after study shows the lighter skinned BLACK does better financially and socially. Within the BLACK community there is animosity towards LIGHTER SKIN COLORED BLACKS. Why is that? Didn’t BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL sole that inferiority complex?
reply d s: If the Whites were turned loose, this country would be great once again.
reply jong: I agree with that if all Americans get on the same page of music we would bounce back. Minorities wish for the most part for the hand out or the better treatment by law instead of working for it.
reply J. Brown: Jong,
Obviously you missed the presidential proclamation the America is an Islamic nation. Can I suspect that all of G.Washingtons staff was from the middle east? Just wondering. Learned my history from a cousin who taught fifth grade.
reply jong: Yes I did miss it. But, then again I tend to ignore everything else King Barry says as lies along with what his “Commissars” have to say or teach.
Shane: Liberals would say that a white history month is racist, but they are fine with a black history month. I go further than you do and say that liberals want white people to be ashamed of their race and heritage. Liberals teach that white people are inherently racist and evil so that the best thing would be for them to have no children. Many white women agree with this as they are having fewer than 2 children each in almost all countries with a large white population.
reply jong: I would also say with the Whites having less children is that we have finally left the hunter/gather type of civilization to go the next step where we have to have replacement population with minimal increase. Take a look at every country that is a stable population (it will go down then it will come back up). They have no problems with providing for them with food clothing etc. When we come to the third world they have over populated their “pen” and crap is backing up. Of course in the end we must prevent those in the third world coming in and up setting what is coming about in the first. And in that a border with armed guards or troops that are willing to shoot become apparent. Of course liberals will point why do we have no real border with Canada. Very simple of course. They are very close to us in that they have a high degree of civilization. Now you will have those that will say that this is racist which of course is nonsense. Each part of the world has had the chance to obtain this and some did for a time such as the Mayan or various civilizations in India or the fertile crescent.
reply Call me Carlos: Because, caucasian has come to symbolize the ‘lack’ of race. So our detractors claim we have nothing to be proud of. The same for being ‘American’, in general has has come to mean the lack of ethnicity or culture. Hence, the hyphen, as in African-American, Mexican-American, etc. We have become the void, into which the rest of the world dumps their crap.
All with the blessing of Wall Street and their paid for republicrats.
GMK: The article says “festooned with racially-charged language” but fails to report what was racist about the display. Was it the abbreviated “hug white people” or is there something I am missing?
reply Ed Orr: Perhaps the black hand of big Brotha BHO is now on the shoulder of the byte to no so subtly influence it.
reply raccman: “Festooned” is a new anti-Black language apparently !
Bonehead: It is about time someone has courage enough to stand up for the white person! Yes, NDAMIX we can be proud too! We also need a White Collage fund and so on down the list! My Hats off to you farmer Donnie Spell! You da man!
Remington 870: The obama whore media has been attacking all white people and labeling us as the enemy. obama and his neo commie handlers are afraid of White America who are mostly conservative and Christian…two ingredients obama hates. Better wake up fellow White Americans and speak out, because no matter what we say…we will be labeled as haters, racists, homo-haters, gun nuts, wing nuts and so on. Give the middle finger to these people, the time has come.
ellen: God Bless You, Mr. Spell! White people seem to be forgotten these days and we’re the ones keeping the country afloat! Ohomo is half white with his white mama’s blood and his kids are half white and somewhere in Sasquatch’s family ties is a white person you can bet on that!
Sue: I do like these “people complained” sentences. Who did? Might be surprised as to who or what group is behind these complaints.
sean murry: The reason it didnt impress is that it wasnt a black float or a gay one.
raccman: I wonder if “White Christmas” is gonna be banned soon !
reply Deborah G: The word Christmas has been banned in my town for a few years now. We’re moving too many DIVERSITY types for us
Sniper Too: Happy to see that someone has the guts to state their feelings.
I am a proud, white, female, born in the U.S.A., Air Force Vietnam Vet, nurse and I speak perfect English and proud of it. How is that, you racist minorities in this country. What are you going to do about it. Get in my face and tell me that i should be ashamed of my self because I am white? You will get an @ss kicking, because it’s the American way. Fruit you ACLU and all minorities in this country. GO HOME
mcw: It won’t end till they rid the world of the white man! A lot of white men have given their lives for the freedom of all races! If they knew their history most slaves started from their own people selling them! Everyone has the right to be proud of their heritage! Except the white people! We will see which race will servive? Until people can look at each other and stop talking about race there will always be racism! There is nothing wrong with your heritage unless your ashamed of yourself!
THIS WENT ON AND ON AND THE TALK GOT REAL GREASY, BUT YOU KNOW THAT.
THIS FROM THE DAILY CALLER:
A newly released Rasmussen Report indicates that on average Americans consider black Americans to be more racist than whites and Hispanics.
Ideology seemingly plays a large role in public on this issue. Among conservatives, 49 percent consider blacks to be more racist compared to 27 percent of liberals. Twelve percent of conservatives and 27 percent of liberals say whites are more racist.
The partisan perspective shows a similar trend with 49 percent of Republicans and only 29 percent of Democrats saying blacks are more racist. Thirty-six percent of unaffiliated adults feel this way as well.
Interestingly, the race of the respondent seems to be less important than politics.
Among black poll respondents, 31 percent said blacks are more racist, while 24 percent think whites are more racist and 15 percent say Hispanic Americans show greater racist tendencies. Ten percent of white Americans say whites are more racist, 38 say blacks are and 17 percent say Hispanics.
Overall, 37 percent of Americans feel that black Americans are the most racist among the three ethnic groups, 15 percent feel that whites are and 18 percent think Hispanics are.
These figures are reflective of the current overall attitude of race relations, in which 30 percent of Americans feel that racial rapport is good or excellent rapport, 14 percent think current relations are poor, 29 percent think the current trends indicate improvement and 35 percent see neither progress nor regression. Blacks are more optimistic about the current state of affairs than whites and Hispanics, as are liberals versus conservatives.
anon: I went to a majority black high school. I am white. I know blacks are more racist. We let blacks hang out in our groups but their groups were not like that and only the blacks who were rejected hung out with the whites. Sad. However, if they had any lightness of skin they were made fun of by their brothers. I blame the public school system. I had to sit through many films of “raisin in the sun,” being the only white guy in the class. I credit the fact that I was benching 300-lbs in HS as the only reason I survived. The public school system teaches blacks to be racist!
Bill: Anyone who doesn’t believe blacks are racist need only join the military. The black noncoms run the show and if you ain’t the same color you will learn first hand about discrimination.
icepick316: Buddddyyy black ppl are 15x’s more rasict than anyother. They call others whitey, cracka, whitebread shit like that iggnorant thinkin. Once they realize rasicim was a weapon use against them to drive them all to kill themselves [sic]
Steven Vermillion: Black Racism is the bi-product of their victimization view and their demands for entitlements.. Anytime anyone Black or White even suggest that Blacks sabotage their own lives in the choices they make and the responsibilities they ignore will provoke a Howl of indignation and a torrent of Racist and Uncle Tom name calling… Until the Black Community come to terms with their own role in sabotaging their own lives and future, their lack of true freedom because they have decided to crawl back onto the Government Plantation and be cared for… Until then, there will be NO meaningful discussion on race issues in America… Only when Both White and Black Citizens come to terms with the roles each play will we see improvements…
baseman: The vocal blacks seem to be largely racist. Not fair that Paula Deen has been destroyed over something she said 30 years ago while the racist things out of the mouths of so many black leaders and celebrities recently is largely ignored. Note that most blacks clearly find Zimmerman as guilty and O.J. as not guilty while most Whites weigh the evidence. Blacks kill blacks every day in significant numbers but that goes largely unnoticed. If someone were to call me a “cracker” (which is not deemed bad apparently) I just consider the source. But if a white calls a black “nigger” (which so many blacks use themselves) then all hell brakes out. The problem is that those companies who supported Paula Deen were afraid that the black leaders would boycott their companies. But if some sport figure called some white man a “cracker”…it would be totally ignored by the financial supporters as a non story. It’s called thin skinned and Obama has only made it more apparent in society today. He even spoke out for Trayvon when it is none of his business getting involved in a court case to tant the jury pool and the minds of the general population.
anon: This isn’t news. It’s been that way for as long as I can remember.
anon: I see a glimmer of hope for those who are willing to be called names and be condemned by the black community. many are willing to speak out now and tell the truth regarding the dems and libs. it’s very sad they’ve been deceived for so long.
anon: Seriously? Check out history and current treatment folks. Hello Paula Deen!
anon: I thank you 8:53 for your honesty I have had many friends and co-workers that are black and about half admit to the same thing. I worked with one girl who hated blacks that were darker and she called them horribe names. There is simply with any race a divide, but like you stated it is what you do with your life that defines it, and a belief in God.
ginn: All you had to do was listen to Will Smith or Danny Glover we didn’t need a study.
anon: 10:16-Add Chris Rock and Morgan Freeman to the list. And don’t forget “reverends” al sharpton and jesse jackson. They are the worst hypocrites of all-the professional racists who preach about racism just to keep the (money) pot stirred.
anon: There were many ethnic groups and others that were subjected to inhumane atrocities, have experienced mistreatment and slavery. Native American Indians, Jews, many many women world-wide and those with mental illness yet no group has received more attention than our African American brothers and sisters of the American south. I ask why is this issue still alive when all others mentioned are still in bondage also?
THIS IS THE CURRENT TREND IN MERIKA. THEY HAVE TURNED THE VICTIMS INTO THE VICTIMIZERS. MUCH LIKE THAT PERSON DID TO THAT BOY HE WAS TOLD TO LEAVE ALONE. THIS IS BEING DONE FOR A REASON AND WE BETTER START HOLDING OUR HEADS UP AND PAYING ATTENTION TO THE HAND WRITING THAT IS CLEARLY BEING SCRATCHED ON ALL OF OUR WALLS.
Pastor, Turner Memorial African Methodist Episcopal Church, Hyattsville, MD
My political consciousness was forged on an anvil not made of iron or steel, but books and music. My parents supplied me with the good stuff that prevented me from achieving bliss because ignorance was never an option. Let’s talk records. In 1988, during the golden age of hip-hop, I was given a copy of one of the greatest albums ever recorded — It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back by Public Enemy. Chuck D spat fire and introduced me to John Coltrane and Joanne Chesimard while challenging me to think critically about America’s war on poor black and brown people (artfully camouflaged as the war on drugs) and the prison-military-industrial complex. As July the Fourth approaches I will listen to “Louder than a Bomb” and reflect on Flavor Flav’s introductory salvo, “Picture us cooling out on the Fourth of July. And if you heard we were celebrating that’s a worldwide lie!”
Let’s talk books. My mother gave me a tattered, discarded Bibb County, Georgia, textbook entitled Eyewitness: The Negro in American History by William Loren Katz when I was 9 or 10. That book became my favorite possession. Its pictures are seared upon my imagination. Especially a photograph of an enslaved man named Peter who had been whipped by his overseer. The image of his grotesquely scarred back taken on April 2, 1863, has haunted me since 1983. Katz documented the beauty and horror of my heritage as a black man in America. He also introduced me to Frederick Douglass’s classic oration from July 5, 1852, entitled, “What to the Slave is the Fourth of July?”. It’s time to reflect upon those timeless words again.
Many folk will bristle at my juxtaposition of the rhetorical artistry of Flavor Flav and the venerable Frederick Douglass. But the words of these two men have shaped my politics and given voice to my feelings about the Christmas of American civil religion, July the Fourth. Before my political awakening the Fourth was a fun day of barbecue, games, and fellowship with family and friends. Now, I reflect upon this nation’s refusal to live up to the syrupy platitudes about liberty and sacrifice our political leaders will serve us like so many hot dogs.
There will be fireworks and Sousa. But I am sticking with Flav and Frederick. Why? I find little to celebrate. Douglass calls the Fourth “your holiday.” He does not own it. What happened to white Americans in 1776 was hardly felt by many black Americans in 1976. He calls the founders “your fathers.” He does not own them. And I cannot own them. They never intended for my ancestors to be anything but human cogs in the wheel of their economic prosperity. That is a fact. To forget that is to trample upon the bones of my forbears. I must reflect upon my ancestors’ elusive dream of freedom.
The government and the corporate media celebrate as patriots those who are uncritically supportive of America’s imperial exploits. That is not my heritage. I am Richard Allen’s son, the first black man to write a political pamphlet challenging America’s white supremacy. And we must keep writing. I am Ida B. Wells Barnett’s son, the powerful black woman who refused to let America lynch black bodies without sounding the alarm of outrage. And we must continue to speak up for those crushed by American violence masquerading as law and order. I am Bayard Rustin’s son, the black man who strategically organized people and resources to challenge the status quo and to demand justice from America. I am William H. Lamar III and Eartha A. Lamar’s son. I am only one generation removed from the ugliness of legal oppression in America. How can I celebrate liberty with bondage — economic bondage, educational bondage, political bondage, health care bondage, and religious bondage — all around me? On July 4, 2013, I will reflect on America as it was and as it is. And I will affirm my allegiance to my ancestors whose fight lives on in me.
This was originally published by the Afro-American Newspapers at afro.com.
I DIDN’T INCLUDE ANY COMMENTS WITH ARTICLE.
THE COMMENTS FOR THIS ONE ARTICLE SHUTS THE DOOR ON ANY TYPE OF POST RACIAL ANYTHING IN MERIKA. THEY ARE SO VAST I JUST CAN’T EVEN BEGIN TO CUT AND PASTE THEM ALL AND I DID TRY. SO I’LL LEAVE THE LINK AND YOU CAN GO OVER AND READ FOR YOURSELF. IN FACT, I BEG YOU TO READ THEM SOME OF THEM AND YOU CAN START FROM ANYWHERE IN THE COMMENT SECTION. THE COUNT THAT I SAW WAS OVER 6300 COMMENTS AND I DIDN’T READ ONE THAT WAS IN BLACK PEOPLE’S FAVOR.
WHEN I WAS GETTING THIS POST TOGETHER AND READING ALL WISDOM THAT WHITE FOLK HAD, IT DAWNED ON ME. THE REAL QUESTION THEY NEED TO BE ASKING IS NOT ABOUT THE COST OF ADOPTING ANY BABIES OR WHY YOU HAVE TO PAY TO ADOPT A BABY. THE REAL QUESTION FROM MY STANDPOINT IS WHY DO YOU HAVE TO ADOPT A BABY IN THE FIRST?
THIS FROM AMREN:
Seriously though, this “The fees typically cover administrative costs, but also costs associated with taking care of the mother, like travel, rent, health care and counseling services. ” makes it sound like they are selling babies, especially when they being priced like they are automobiles. Why is a mulatto more than a pet? To me, they are the same.
Whatever happened to “adoption”? Why are there so few orphanages?
Funruffian: I am literally shocked that any non-Black would pay money to adopt a Black orphan. I thought that it was either free of charge, or that you could get compensation for doing so.
reply borogirl54: I would think that this would be the case for Black boys, who are harder to place than black girls. From what I understand the easiest child to place is a light skinned black girl with straight hair.
reply The__Bobster: Not one of these?
Anon: You have no idea what happens when taxpayer dollars are involved.
If you want to see something unbelievable, do a search for “HIV-positive adoption”.
There are evil whites who will adopt HIV-positive orphans from Africa and bring these diseased trash here. Why oh why would they do this? First, they get lots of applause from their peers, so whatever moral failures they have, they feel great about themselves. And it doesn’t cost them anything because guess what, all these taxpayer-funded services start flowing to HIV-positive children. It’s so great to get a moral high and have someone else pay for it and suffer the lifelong costs and consequences of HIV-positive Africans being brought to the US. Each one of these precious babies is a burden of millions and millions of dollars on US taxpayers, and if they are boys they will soon enough start spreading it to white girls, destroying their futures.
Nathanwartooth: This couple should have really looked at studies showing that Black children raised in a White home will still have the IQ of their birth parents.
For the rest of their lives they will be blaming other Whites for their adopted children’s problems.
When they fail in school or get in legal trouble, it will never be their fault.
Eddie Lutz: The black orphans are way over-priced.
reply jimjunior: They couldn’t pay me 18,000 to even think of it.
reply r j p: I would for 18K ….. in Chicago you can take an unwanted baby to a firehouse and a few other places and drop it off, no questions asked. I would be trying for one a week.
thurlow: Maybe they should try buy one get one free.
Cactus Jack: do they have a return policy when they turn out to be nothing but thugs, it is in their genes…
reply The__Bobster: Yeah, you bought it, you own it.
D.B. Cooper: The cost to adopt the Caucasian child was approximately $35,000, plus some legal expenses.
If an expectant mom walks into the adoption agency’s office, and she looks like the lovely Dianna Agron (add an extra $20,000), and her ex boyfriend is a recent Air Force Academy graduate (add another $20,000) who looks like Captain America (add yet another $20,000); and I’ll bet the remaining $5,000 that the agent will have to excuse herself for a minute to wipe the drool from her mouth. While the agent is in the restroom, she will have to put in Visine to get rid of the dollar signs floating in her eyes.
reply eduard: The world has gone sicko, not to mention the overpopulation of the darkies. Wonder what Neil Patrick Harris paid for his babies. How morally sick can you get when you have all the bucks. As the saying goes: Money corrupts.
Anon: Same thing with eggs. I assume the value of black donor eggs is zero. Blond women with advanced degrees can charge $100,000 for an egg, in comparison. Black donor sperm, unless it’s from a top athlete, is probably also worth zero. Of course taxpayers will pay a million dollars for a black sperm donation or egg, in the form of raising the guy’s children, but the free market pays zero for those things.
Is anyone questioning why Rachel Jeantel can’t sell her eggs for the price of a coffee, while a highly educated white woman can sell hers for $100,000 or more? You would think that liberals would buy the cheapest eggs available, because the genetics make no difference, and the egg is going to be in a perfect environment from conception onward. Rachel Jeantel’s eggs should have the same market value and future hopes as the eggs of, say, Natalie Portman (went to Harvard) because the only thing that matters is the environment.
IstvanIN: Black babies are like black Barbies, they always end up in the discount bin.
JDInSanDiego: It works the same in animal shelters. I went into a local one once and 21 of the 25 dogs were pit bulls or a few pit bull mixes. No one wanted them
Howard W. Campbell: When my brother and his wife started the adoption process, the social workers were practically begging him to take little Dontavious off their hands. The state would even help out with most of the costs. If you would assume the care and feeding of a “Dontavious”, a (minority) cripple, or a crack baby, money could be found to help with the adoption expenses.
I would rather pay the 35k up front and avoid all of the issues that blacks will have when they hit the teenage years. While I am not a big fan of it, I can understand why parents will adopt Chinese girls. Sometimes, it takes an act of God to adopt a healthy white child, and if you are too “old” forget it. All of these celebrities who are adopting racially correct children are going to be in for a rude awakening in 10 -15 years.
Fortunately, they eventually adopted a white child from overseas.
Unperson: White child: $35,000. The bargain of the century.
Black child: $18,000. The rip-off of the century.
YOU MAY WANT TO GO AND READ SOME OF THESE GEMS YOURSELF……..NO!!
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE FAUX POST-RACIAL AMERIKA, BUT KEEPING UP WITH THE SCOTUS AND THE ABSOLUTE STREAK THEY HAVE BEEN ON, I PRESENT THE LATEST:
(Reuters) – The U.S. Supreme Court delivered a landmark victory for gay rights on Wednesday by forcing the federal government to recognize same-sex marriages in states where it is legal and paving the way for it in California, the most populous state.
As expected, however, the court fell short of a broader ruling endorsing a fundamental right for gay people to marry, meaning that there will be no impact in the more than 30 states that do not recognize gay marriage.
The two cases, both decided on 5-4 votes, concerned the constitutionality of a key part of a federal law, the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), that denied benefits to same-sex married couples, and a voter-approved California state law enacted in 2008, called Proposition 8, that banned gay marriage.
The court struck down Section 3 of DOMA, which limited the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman for the purposes of federal benefits, as a violation of the U.S. Constitution’s guarantee of equal protection under the law.
The ruling was a victory for President Barack Obama’s administration, which had decided two years ago it would no longer defend the law in court. Obama applauded the DOMA ruling and directed U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to review all relevant federal laws to ensure that it is implemented.
Justice Anthony Kennedy, 76, appointed to the court by Republican President Ronald Reagan in 1988, was the key vote and wrote the DOMA opinion, the third major gay rights ruling he has authored since 1996.
In a separate opinion, the court ducked a decision on Proposition 8 by finding that supporters of the California law did not have standing to appeal a federal district court ruling that struck it down. By doing so, the justices let stand the lower-court ruling that had found the ban unconstitutional.
Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the Proposition 8 opinion, ruling along procedural lines in a way that said nothing about how the court would rule on the merits. The court was unusually split, with liberals and conservatives in both the majority and the dissent.
By ruling this way on Proposition 8, the court effectively let states set their own policy on gay marriage. This means a debate is set to continue in various states via ballot initiatives, legislative action and litigation potentially costing millions of dollars on both sides of an issue that stirs cultural, religious and political passions in the United States as elsewhere.
The rulings come amid rapid progress for advocates of gay marriage in recent months and years. Opinion polls show a steady increase in U.S. public support for gay marriage.
Gay marriage advocates celebrated outside the courthouse. A big cheer went up as word arrived DOMA had been struck down. “DOMA is dead!” the crowd chanted, as couples hugged and cried.
Paul Katami and Jeffrey Zarrillo, a gay couple from Burbank, California, who were two of the four plaintiffs in the Proposition 8 case, were both outside the courthouse.
“We are gay. We are American. And we will not be treated like second-class citizens,” Katami said.
He turned to Zarrillo, voice cracking and said: “I finally get to look at the man I love and say, ‘Will you marry me?'”
Before Wednesday, 12 of the 50 U.S. states plus the District of Columbia recognized gay marriage. Three of those dozen – Delaware, Minnesota and Rhode Island – legalized gay marriage this year. California would become the 13th state to allow it.
About a third of the U.S. population now lives in areas where gay marriage is legal, if California is included.
“We are a people who declared that we are all created equal, and the love we commit to one another must be equal as well,” Obama, the first sitting president to endorse gay marriage, said in a written statement.
While the ruling on DOMA was clearcut, questions remained about the meaning of the Proposition 8 ruling for California. Proposition 8 supporters vowed to seek continued enforcement of the ban until litigation is resolved. But California Governor Jerry Brown, a Democrat, said the justices’ ruling “applies statewide” and all county officials must comply with it.
“We are now faced with this unusual situation where we have some uncertainty,” said Andrew Pugno, one of the Proposition 8 proponents’ lawyers. He expressed satisfaction that the Supreme Court had “nullified” a San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruling that, if left intact, could have had set a precedent for other Western states in its jurisdiction.
By striking down Section 3 of DOMA, the court cleared the way for legally married couples to claim more than 1,100 federal benefits, rights and burdens linked to marriage status.
Kennedy wrote for the majority that the federal law, as passed by Congress, violated the U.S. Constitution’s guarantee of equal protection. “The federal statute is invalid, for no legitimate purpose overcomes the purpose and effect to disparage and to injure those whom the state, by its marriage laws, sought to protect in personhood and dignity,” Kennedy wrote.
The law imposed “a stigma upon all who enter into same-sex marriages made lawful by the unquestioned authority of the states,” he said.
Roberts and Justice Antonin Scalia both wrote dissenting opinions in the DOMA case.
Roberts went out of his way to state that the court was not making any big pronouncements about gay marriage. The court, he said, did not have before it the question of whether states “may continue to utilize the traditional definition of marriage.”
Scalia accused the majority of ignoring procedural obstacles about whether the court should have heard the case in order to reach its desired result.
“This is jaw-dropping,” he said of Kennedy’s analysis.
As a result of the DOMA ruling, Edith Windsor of New York, who was married to a woman and sued the government to get the federal estate tax deduction available to heterosexuals when their spouses die, will be able to claim a $363,000 tax refund.
The ruling was a win also for more than 200 businesses, including Goldman Sachs Group, Microsoft Corp and Google Inc, that signed on to a brief urging the court to strike down DOMA. Thomson Reuters Corp, owner of the Reuters news agency, was another signatory.
“Today’s decisions help define who we are as a people, whether or not we are part of the group directly affected,” said Lloyd Blankfein, Goldman’s chief executive.
Numerous public figures including former President Bill Clinton, who in 1996 signed the DOMA law, and prominent groups including the American Academy of Pediatrics have come out this year in support of same-sex marriage and gay civil rights.
Individual members of Congress – Democrats and Republicans – also voiced new support for gay marriage this year.
Even with recent developments, there is still significant opposition among Republicans, including House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner, who had ordered the House to intervene in the DOMA case in defense of the law. Boehner said in a statement he was “obviously disappointed in the ruling” and predicted that a “robust national debate over marriage” would continue.
While more developments lie ahead, the legal fight over gay marriage already constitutes one of the most concentrated civil rights sagas in U.S. history.
Just 20 years ago, the Hawaii Supreme Court ruled that its state constitution could allow gay marriage, prompting a nationwide backlash and spurring Congress and a majority of states, including Hawaii, to pass laws defining marriage as between only a man and woman.
In 2003, when the top court of Massachusetts established a right to same-sex marriage under its constitution, the action triggered another backlash as states then adopted constitutional amendments against such unions. Five years later, the tide began to reverse, and states slowly began joining Massachusetts in permitting gays to marry.
I WON’T PASTE THE ARTICLE HERE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO READ IT, HERE’S THE LINK: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/06/scotus_strikes_down_key_voting_rights_provision_comments.html#disqus_thread
FloridaCracker: Let’s ditch “Affirmative Action” while we’re at it.
Since we’ve decided the community in question now is able enough to register to vote and perhaps acquire a picture ID AND get themselves to the polling place, preferably the one where they belong, perhaps we can take their training wheels off and let them get jobs on merit and education, not skin color, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, or whatever else they’ve added to the mix over the years.
THAT REALLY IS THIS PERSON’S NAME
Dlanor: A corrupt Congress (instead of a corrupt Court) will now decide which Southern States should have the burden to prove they are full members of the union, such that they ought not be presumed to be saddled with more racists and bigots than are found in your typical, commie, open society, anti-american, blue state.
MACinAZ: Another example of “Club Fed” wagging the dog.
Another example of “Club Fed” ignoring the rule of law – and deeming the Constitution as being a living document to be re-interpreted by using social justice – thereby stripping the States of their rights.
Our federal government is totally out of control – this “Club Fed” has overstepped it’s charter and become a domestic enemy of the people. I can give you 90 trillion very good reasons why this is so.
Our founders are turning over in their graves, as are the millions who’ve given their lives in the name of freedom.
We could not keep our republic.
May God in Heaven damn Obama and his ilk to Hell.
reply Jerry_Rigger: God doesn’t damn anyone in spite of Jeremiah Wright”s prayers. People damn themselves. The Kenyan is doing that job quite well on his own. Let’s pray he hastens the job. He can’t split those gates soon enough for American Patriots.
Dale+G: The sad thing is that four justices voted to affirm the idea that the sins of the father should be visited upon the son.
buckhart: John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Mitch McConnell have probably already called Obama to apologize.
dapicayune: So, Mr. Moran, is Reconstruction finally over now?
journey: The outcome of the last election was clearly shown by allowing low IQers the privilege to “vote”. “Voting” was determined by how large are the handouts. This is not how a democracy can be maintained. Of all the states, the South understood the blacks the best. They held the last line in this country in trying to keep it white majority. Now the country is run by idiots afraid of being called racists. There are millions more low IQers to be made “citizens” voting for more handouts.
Question Diversity: When thinking about this case, I put myself in the position of a Supreme Court judge. (Yeah, I know, from my mouth to Allah’s ears.)
The hypothetical me on SCOTUS would like to find for Miss Fisher, but I can’t think of any Federal Constitutional grounds to do so. Just between everyone reading these words and the gatepost, we all know that this Top 10% was done precisely as a seemingly non-racial end run around the concept of blatantly race-based AA, because we all know that the valedictorian of taco or ghetto high schools in Texas isn’t as worthy as someone from a difficult competitive white high school who finished one person below the top 10%. But what am I supposed to use as a rationale to find for Miss Fisher? Am I to use the doctrine of disparate impact? (Which the real SCOTUS will take up next term). Except I don’t think the disparate impact doctrine should even exist. If it shouldn’t exist to invalidate police and fire department entrance and promotion exams, then it shouldn’t exist to knock back this top 10% system either. The doctrine of strict scrutiny of racial classifications at law? First off, I think intermediate scrutiny should be used on race, and second, there are no racial classifications de jure in this case.
If there was some paper trail somewhere that proved that the authors of the top 10% policy specifically and explicitly did it because of race, then I suppose I could use strict scrutiny to declare it an illegitimate racial classification, if I was given to do that.
One more thing from SCOTUS: You’re reading a lot of hemming and hawing in the breaking news that SCOTUS borked the Voting Rights Act and namely the preclearance provisions. They did no such thing. All they did was order that the DOJ come up with a better, more timely more up-to-date formula on determining which jurisdictions have to do preclearance. They did NOT find the Federal government’s power to require preclearance of some jurisdictions but not all unconstitutional, much less find the whole notion of preclearance unconstitutional much less the whole VRA unconstitutional. IOW, in the heart of the matter, they found for the Feds/VRA.
BernieGoetzFan: It is amazing how this is happening at the same time as the amnesty. All these non-whites will get quotas, of course.
Affirmative action really is forever now. Or at least until the Hispanics/Asians decide to stop giving quotas to blacks.
reply Spartacus: -My people have suffered historical abuse at the hands of white racists.
-Wait a minute, didn’t you just jump the fence yesterday?
-Well…Erm… RACIST !
JJCULLEN: Charles Whitman is the answer at UT Austin
Funruffian: What is so blindingly pathetic about UT’s demographic is that Asians far outperform and earn their spots in the University in comparison to the overall residential population they hold. As Blacks get all of these assistant programs, AA quota privileges and racial preferences, they still make up less than half of the college campus in relation to the state’s Black population. If I were Asian I would be disgusted by the governmental support blacks receive who have hardly earned their admissions in relation to Asians.
Dan Roodt: Initially when the news came out yesterday, it looked for a moment as if the SCOTUS had moved a few inches away from endorsing race preferences, but Jared’s disillusioning commentary is by far the best I have read so far.
He is also correct about the University having all the funds and the time in the world to litigate against white individuals whom a few smaller non-profits might assist in trying to defend their rights.
The one thing that struck me in reading some of the arguments of Miss Fisher’s lawyer last year, was the typical tendency of lawyers to be cautious and not tackle the issue head-on. As far as I recall, he did not attack the notion of “diversity”, but simply argued that UT was already diverse enough not to exclude Abigail Fisher on racial grounds.
This also happens a lot here in South Africa where we have to fight name changes and language discrimination (against Afrikaans) in the courts. Ultimately, one gets a sense of “winning the battle but losing the war”. Sometimes a case is won on some technicality but the principle is left untouched.
If it makes sense at all to litigate against the state or huge institutions like universities, almost against all odds, one should attack the core principle, such as “diversity” or race preference itself. Even if the outcome is then negative, at least the hostility of the SCOTUS against whites would have been revealed, the emperor seen to be naked as it were.
As things stand now, the issue has been fudged and the lower court will probably keep it that way. So UT will just invent another another abstruse requirement to exclude whites without actually calling it racial.
Some time in the future demographics will change and white students will be a minority on campus. At that stage universities will not argue that they need more “diversity” in the form of white students, but the remaining whites will be punished for “past privileges” enjoyed by their parents and grandparents.
I strongly feel that universities with their “tenured radicals” are leading the way as far as the downfall of the West is concerned. There must be some way in which they can be boycotted or isolated in order to neutralise them.
WELCOME TO THE NEW AMERICA, WE MIGHT SOON BE SLAVES AGAIN.
DAVEY D. DID AN OPEN LETTER TO THE HIP HOP COMMUNITY HERE’S THE LINK: http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/open-letter-to-the-hip-hop-community-what-do-you-think-of-the-newrules-to-voting-rights/